{"id":2995,"date":"2016-10-10T11:14:07","date_gmt":"2016-10-10T13:14:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mahila.lt.kirtiklis.serveriai.lt\/?p=2995"},"modified":"2019-02-02T19:03:00","modified_gmt":"2019-02-02T17:03:00","slug":"kalbos-apie-kalba-niekada-nesibaigia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mahila.lt\/index.php\/2016\/10\/10\/kalbos-apie-kalba-niekada-nesibaigia\/","title":{"rendered":"Pakalb\u0117kim apie kalb\u0105"},"content":{"rendered":"

An\u0105dien feisbuke paskelbiau tok\u012f post\u0105.<\/p>\n

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Apie tai para\u0161iau tod\u0117l, kad \u0161itok\u012f klaiding\u0105 para\u0161ym\u0105 matau taip da\u017enai, jog anks\u010diau net sudvejojau savimi ir syk\u012f netgi \u0117miau ir panaudojau \u201eneesu\u201c, nes nu<\/em> rimtai prad\u0117jau galvoti, kad gal ir reikia taip ra\u0161yti, o a\u0161 vis\u0105 gyvenim\u0105 gyvenau mele. Tada, ai\u0161ku, gavau baisiai bart nuo redaktor\u0117s ir man ai\u0161kiai paai\u0161k\u0117jo, kad \u0161i klaida taip smarkiai paplitusi, jog vat imi ir pradedi abejoti savo \u017einiomis.<\/p>\n

Ai\u0161ku, niekas nenurungs kitos ne\u017emoni\u0161kai i\u0161ve\u0161\u0117jusios ir visur paplitusios klaidos \u2013 perd\u0117to valand\u0173 trumpinio h<\/strong> naudojimo. Trumpinys h<\/strong> netur\u0117t\u0173 b\u016bti naudojamas tada, kai kalbama apie laik\u0105, kai nurodoma, kada ka\u017ekas vyks ar kada susitinkama, jis tur\u0117t\u0173 b\u016bti naudojamas tada, kai kalbame apie valand\u0173 kiek\u012f. Pavyzd\u017eiui, \u201eMarius i\u0161 ta\u0161ko A \u012f ta\u0161k\u0105 B keliavo 7 h<\/strong>.\u201c Kai nurodomas renginio laikas, reik\u0117t\u0173 vartoti val.<\/strong>, pvz., \u201eKoncerto prad\u017eia \u2013 17 val.<\/strong>\u201c, arba \u201eSusitinkame 19 val.<\/strong>\u201c A\u0161 \u017einau, kad gal ir nepatik\u0117site manimi, bet galite paklausti lietuvi\u0173 kalbos specialist\u0173 ir jie jums pasakys t\u0105 pat\u012f.<\/p>\n

\u0160ias klaidas da\u017eniausiai daro ne tik visi\u0161ki bera\u0161\u010diai, bet ir gana taisyklingai lietuvi\u0161kai ra\u0161antys \u017emon\u0117s, tod\u0117l tiesiog draugi\u0161kai norisi jiems pasakyti, kaip reik\u0117t\u0173 ra\u0161yti i\u0161 tikro. D\u017eiaugiuosi ir esu d\u0117kinga, kai kas nors man pasako, jei darau koki\u0105 klaid\u0105.<\/p>\n

Nema\u017eai dirbu su tekstais, tod\u0117l taisykles, manau, i\u0161manau visai neblogai, ta\u010diau iki tobulumo dar tikrai toli. Kadaise ne\u017einojau, kad r\u016bb\u0105<\/em> reik\u0117t\u0173 keisti drabu\u017eiu<\/em>, kontrakt\u0105<\/em> \u2013 sutartimi<\/em>, lazanij\u0105<\/em> \u2013 lak\u0161tini\u0173 apkepu<\/em> (\u0161itas crazy), iki \u0161iol da\u017enai ka\u017eko ne\u017einau, bet, laim\u0117 (ne laimei<\/em>, \u017einokit), yra \u017emoni\u0173, kurie padeda savo konsultacijomis, jei VLKK jau nebepadeda (papras\u010diausiai b\u016bna taip, kad net ne\u017einau, kaip g\u016bglinti, kad ras\u010diau atsakymus). Kai dirbu, visoms klaidoms su<\/em>\u017ei\u016br\u0117ti skiriu gana daug d\u0117mesio, o tuos mano tekstus v\u0117liau per\u017ei\u016bri dar ir redaktoriai.<\/p>\n

Labai da\u017enai, dirbdama su tekstais, pradedu galvoti, kad nei\u0161manau visi\u0161kai nieko ir jau\u010diuosi it pirmok\u0117, stov\u0117dama prie lentos, kurioje jai reikia i\u0161spr\u0119sti dvyliktos klas\u0117s matematikos u\u017eduot\u012f. Ir taip, tikrai, kaip ir nema\u017eai kit\u0173 \u017emoni\u0173 manau, kad VLKK taisykl\u0117s kartais b\u016bna per grie\u017etos, o si\u016blomi vartoti \u017eod\u017eiai nes\u0105moningi. Taip pat man taisyklingojoje lietuvi\u0173 kalboje da\u017enai tr\u016bksta \u017eod\u017ei\u0173<\/strong>. Man tr\u016bksta \u017eod\u017ei\u0173, kurie tiksliai perteikt\u0173 angli\u0161k\u0173 \u017eod\u017ei\u0173 ir i\u0161sirei\u0161kim\u0173 – awkward<\/em>, weird<\/em>, typo<\/em>, uncanny<\/em>, scroll<\/em>, chill<\/em> ir dar daugyb\u0117s prasm\u0119, arba pakankamai tiksliai atitikt\u0173 netaisyklinguosius ir draustinuosius \u2013 ankiek<\/em> (ant kiek<\/em> gal, kadangi netaisyklingas, tai neai\u0161ku ir kaip ra\u0161os), visi veiksma\u017eod\u017eiai su prie\u0161d\u0117liu da<\/em>-, fainas<\/em> ir daug kit\u0173.<\/p>\n

Turb\u016bt sutiksite, kad nei angl\u0173, nei lietuvi\u0173 kalboje pakankamai stipraus atitikmens rusi\u0161kam \u017eod\u017eiui razliubit<\/em> tikrai nerasit.<\/p>\n

Bet j\u016bs n\u0117 ne\u012fsivaizduojat (nors jei skaitot, tai \u012fsivaizduojat), kaip vad\u017eias atleid\u017eiu ra\u0161ydama blog\u0105, ka\u017ek\u0105 postindama feisbuke arba tiesiog kalb\u0117dama. Kaip man patinka visokie nes\u0105moningi \u017eodeliai \u017eodely\u010diai, fraz\u0117s ir frazel\u0117s, kalbiniai i\u0161sidirbin\u0117jimai. Kaip man patinka marijampolie\u010di\u0173 ir radvili\u0161kie\u010di\u0173 tarm\u0117s, kaip man kartais gra\u017eu klausytis, kai \u017emon\u0117s \u0161neka panev\u0117\u017eieti\u0161kai, su visais narveliais<\/em>, ragan\u0117jimais<\/em> ir kir\u010diais ne visai vietoj. Anks\u010diau tos tarm\u0117s man atrodydavo kiek komi\u0161kai, o dabar skamba gra\u017eiai.<\/p>\n

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Man, \u017einokit, patinka visokie skoliniai (da\u017enai juos vartodama smarkiai \u0161ypsausi, kad \u017emon\u0117s suprast\u0173, jog \u017einau, kad toks \u017eodis nevartotinas, o pasirenkamas for fun<\/em>), patinka vartoti, kartais net perd\u0117tai, deminutyvus, sakyti renginukas<\/em>, vaikinukas<\/em>, Andriuks<\/em>, Pauliuks<\/em>, piam<\/em>, \u0161iam<\/em>, kartais, tikiuosi, ne per da\u017enai, \u012f kalb\u0105 \u012fterpiu ir angli\u0161kas frazes, nes tr\u016bksta lietuvi\u0161k\u0173.<\/p>\n

Mano supratimu,\u00a0egzistuoja keli\u0173 r\u016b\u0161i\u0173 klaidos. Kartais \u017emon\u0117s klaidas daro tod\u0117l, kad ne\u017eino, kaip reikia ra\u0161yti tam tikrus \u017eod\u017eius, da\u017enai d\u0117l to, kad ra\u0161ytin\u0119 kalb\u0105 vartoja retai, skaito ne tiek jau ir daug. Kartais tod\u0117l, kad jie nei\u0161mano kalbos kult\u016bros taisykli\u0173, kurioms mokyklose \u0161iais laikais skiriama labai ma\u017eai d\u0117mesio.<\/p>\n

Yra \u017emoni\u0173, kurie specialiai i\u0161sikalin\u0117ja<\/em> ir ra\u0161o kosTmosas<\/em>, dariti<\/em>, ira<\/em>, matiti<\/em>, pastaruoju metu labai daug kas ra\u0161o a\u010di\u0172<\/em>, nes toks i\u0161sikalin\u0117jimas<\/em> yra tam tikra atskira i\u0161rai\u0161kos forma.<\/p>\n

Ta\u010diau yra ir toki\u0173 \u017emoni\u0173, kurie ra\u0161o daigtas<\/em>, atspauzdinti<\/em>, dauk<\/em>, pasenusei naujienai<\/em>, akinei<\/em> ir dar daug visko jie ra\u0161o.<\/p>\n

Pasikartosiu, daug dirbu su kalba, ta\u010diau esu gan\u0117tinai toleranti\u0161ka klaidoms, juk kam nepasitaiko. Ypa\u010d atlaidi esu klaidoms, kurias \u017emon\u0117s daro susira\u0161in\u0117dami su tavimi chate, man\u0119s visi\u0161kai neerzina tos klaidos, kurias lietuvi\u0161kai daro \u017emon\u0117s, kurie u\u017eaugo \u0161eimoje naudodami rus\u0173 ar lenk\u0173 kalb\u0105, arba ilgai nebegyvena Lietuvoje (\u017einoma, tie emigrantai, kurie po trij\u0173 m\u0117nesi\u0173 Airijoj jau \u0161neka su akcentu ir nebesurezga sakinio gimt\u0105ja kalba yra atskira debil\u0173 r\u016b\u0161is) ir, ai\u0161ku, tos, kurias lietuvai\u010diai daro ra\u0161ydami angli\u0161kai. Taip, b\u016bt\u0173 nuostabu, jei visi ra\u0161yt\u0173 nepriekai\u0161tingai ir i\u0161ties der\u0117t\u0173 siekti taip ra\u0161yti, ta\u010diau man truput\u012f per piktai atrodo \u0161ai\u017eus ty\u010diojimasis i\u0161 daran\u010di\u0173j\u0173 klaidas.<\/p>\n

\u017dinot, pa\u017e\u012fstu ne vien\u0105 \u017emog\u0173, su kuriuo viskas tvarkoje ir kuris daro klaidas ra\u0161ydamas, ta\u010diau tai nerei\u0161kia, kad jis ka\u017ekoks valstyb\u0117s prie\u0161as ir yra priimtina i\u0161sitraukti jo ra\u0161yt\u0105 skelbim\u0105 ir vie\u0161ai vadinti j\u012f debilu ar analfabetu. J\u016bs nustebtum\u0117te, kiek j\u016bs\u0173 pa\u017e\u012fstam\u0173 ir giminai\u010di\u0173 gal\u0117t\u0173 pridaryti klaid\u0173, jei i\u0161eit\u0173 \u012f vie\u0161um\u0105, bet, ko gero, neb\u016bt\u0173 labai juokinga, jei j\u0173 foto puikuot\u0173si visur internete vie\u0161ai pa\u0161aipai.<\/p>\n

Toks humoras pastaruoju metu yra gana da\u017enas, tad tenoriu pasakyti, kad piktas, tiesmukas \u017emogaus murkdymas purvuos ir skambus i\u0161sidarkymas yra \u017eemoka juoko forma, kurios, man regis, griebiamasi tada, kai jau neb\u0117ra k\u0105 pasakyti. Kai paimama ka\u017ekieno nety\u010dia be privatumo nustatym\u0173 vie\u0161ai publikuota asmenin\u0117 foto, su mielu priera\u0161u, kad ir su klaidomis, ir be atvangos platinama internete grubiai darkantis i\u0161 \u017emoni\u0173, vadinant juos bera\u0161\u010diais, yra toji piktoji forma, apie kuri\u0105 kalbu. O tai, kad randama laiko u\u017esiimti kapstymusi ir ie\u0161kojimu, prie ko prikibti, ai\u0161kiai parodo, jog tam tikri \u017emon\u0117s laiko turi tiesiog per daug. Tie \u017emon\u0117s su visom tom savo klaidom, tegul jie tik ra\u0161o, bera\u0161ydami gal prakus ir i\u0161moks.<\/p>\n

Ar \u017einote, kod\u0117l lietuvai\u010diams taip sunku kalb\u0117ti angli\u0161kai? Manau, kad egzistuoja dvi pagrindin\u0117s prie\u017eastys: 1) mokykloje kalb\u0117jimui<\/strong> mokantis vis\u0173 u\u017esienio kalb\u0173, ne tik angl\u0173, skiriama smarkiai per ma\u017eai laiko; 2) esame perfekcionist\u0173 tauta, tad ne vienas i\u0161 m\u016bs\u0173 labai g\u0117dijam\u0117s kalb\u0117ti, nes bijome, kad suklysim. Labai gali b\u016bti, kad i\u0161 m\u016bs\u0173 ka\u017ekas ka\u017ekada yra pasijuok\u0119s d\u0117l to, kaip kalbame, tad esam \u012fsivar\u0119 daug kompleks\u0173 ir bijom, kad i\u0161 m\u016bs\u0173 ir v\u0117l juoksis. Ir a\u0161, i\u0161 j\u016bs esam sutik\u0119 daugyb\u0119 u\u017esienie\u010di\u0173, kurie kalba kaip i\u0161eina, bet nebijo ir nekvar\u0161ina sau galvos d\u0117l klaid\u0173, tod\u0117l toliau tobul\u0117ja, nes juk practice makes it perfect<\/em>. A\u0161 nesakau, kad netaisyklingai kalb\u0117ti yra gerai ar sveikintina, tik sakau, kad nereikia, tikrai nereikia ty\u010diotis i\u0161 daran\u010di\u0173j\u0173 klaidas.<\/p>\n

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Typos<\/em> (kai klaviat\u016bra \u012fvedin\u0117jate tekst\u0105 ir nety\u010dia ne taip para\u0161ote \u017eod\u012f) yra, mano nuomone, visi\u0161kai suprantamas human error<\/em>. Jos yra visi\u0161kai atleistina ir normalu, ypa\u010d, jei \u017emogus ra\u0161o telefonu, turi skub\u0117ti ir neturi galimyb\u0117s pasitikrinti. Net ir ra\u0161ant rimtesnius tekstus j\u0173 pasitaiko. Man da\u017enai b\u016bna taip, kad ir kelint\u0105 kart\u0105 atid\u017eiai skaitydama savo ra\u0161yt\u0105 tekst\u0105 jau tiesiog nebepamatau klaid\u0173, tad j\u012f pra\u0161au perskaityti k\u0105 nors kit\u0105 arba tikrinu kitaip.<\/p>\n

Jei kokiame asmeniniame \u012fra\u0161e, kur\u012f matys nedidelis ratas \u017emoni\u0173, pasitaiko viena kita klaida, gal ir nieko baisaus, betgi ne taip jau ir sud\u0117tinga t\u0173 klaid\u0173 i\u0161vengti. Ai\u0161ku, yra toki\u0173, kuriems nusispjaut, paliko jie t\u0173 klaid\u0173, ar ne, ta\u010diau, yra toki\u0173, kurie papras\u010diausiai ne\u017eino, kaip pasitikrinti, ar nesuklydo.<\/p>\n

Anks\u010diau taip nedarydavau, nes tiesiog ne\u017einojau apie tok\u012f variant\u0105, bet dabar visus savo ir angl\u0173, ir lietuvi\u0173 kalbomis para\u0161ytus tekstus pasitikrinu labai paprastai. Nukopijuoju tekst\u0105, \u012fmetu \u012f gmail naujo lai\u0161ko lang\u0105 ir paspaud\u017eiu Tikrinti ra\u0161yb\u0105<\/em>. Galima pasirinkti, kokios kalbos klaid\u0173 ie\u0161koti. Veikia beveik puikiai, tik, kai tikrinama lietuvi\u0173 kalba, kaip klaidingi pa\u017eymimi dauguma tarptautini\u0173 \u017eod\u017ei\u0173 arba restesni \u017eod\u017eiai. Kad ir kaip ten b\u016bt\u0173, toks tikrinimo b\u016bdas labai padeda, nes, kaip jau ir sakiau, da\u017enai b\u016bna, kad sav\u0105 tekst\u0105 beskaitant papras\u010diausiai nebepavyksta t\u0173 klaid\u0173 pasteb\u0117ti.<\/p>\n

Visiems linkiu, prie\u0161 ka\u017ek\u0105 publikuojant, siun\u010diant lai\u0161kus ar \u017einutes, perskaityti, k\u0105 para\u0161\u0117te, jei v\u0117liau pastebite, kad padar\u0117te klaid\u0105, jei \u012fmanoma \u2013 j\u0105 pataisyti, draugi\u0161kai ir nepiktai taisyti vienas kito klaidas ir siekti ra\u0161yti ir kalb\u0117ti be klaid\u0173 ir lietuvi\u0161kai, ir angli\u0161kai, ir visomis kitomis kalbomis, ir nepulti nura\u0161yti daran\u010di\u0173j\u0173 klaidas. Ir j\u016bs juk ne visose srityse visk\u0105 darot tobulai.<\/p>\n

Ar \u012fmanoma kuria nors kalba kalb\u0117ti visi\u0161kai tobulai? Abejoju. Net lietuvi\u0161kai dauguma m\u016bs\u0173 nekalbame ir nera\u0161ome nepriekai\u0161tingai. Visi\u0161kai ir absoliu\u010diai mok\u0117ti angl\u0173 kalb\u0105, manau, irgi n\u0117ra \u012fmanoma. Kalb\u0173 mokym\u0105si matau kaip nesibaigian\u010di\u0105 kelion\u0119, kurios metu vis art\u0117jame prie galutinio tikslo pakeliui patirdami daug nuotyki\u0173 ir vis tobul\u0117dami, ta\u010diau ar pavyks j\u012f pasiekti? Ka\u017ei, bet tai veikiau yra realisti\u0161kas, ne pesimisti\u0161kas po\u017ei\u016bris, padedantis nenusivilti, stengtis, jud\u0117ti pirmyn, bet ir neb\u016bti pernelyg savikriti\u0161kiems, kai kartais ka\u017eko nesuprasdami pasijuntame bevilti\u0161kai.<\/p>\n

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